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with all due respect...

Posted by Cat on 2009-08-18 00:15:33, Tuesday
In reply to I believe marriage is man-made posted by Aionios on 2009-08-17 15:06:10, Monday

From a biblical framework your view is backwards on each of your points.

I respect your position... I am not your judge... but to be fair to the biblical frame work as well as to you I simply point out that your view is not a biblical view at all and you yourself may be fine with that.

Marriage was sanctioned before the fall and the Bible treats the Adam and Eve story literally (Jesus and Paul both reference to it as a literal event). Sexual reporduction, whilst important to biblical marriage, was not the key reason for male and female. This is given in the ealry chapters of Genesis also. Primarly man was made male and female in God's image (to reflect His glory).... secondarily man was made male and female for companionship because God declaired that it was not good for man to be alone.

Jesus' claim is to, very clearly, know better than the limitations of his "Jewish texts" or the then current understanding of them. He claimed to speak "from the Father (ie: God)" and to "do the works of the Father". His claim was that if we saw Him and heard Him... then we saw and heard the Father.

Paul as a man directly appointed by Jesus with his message had every right to say the things he did. Further the bible was not chosen by vote but rattified by one. The books of Scripture do not have authority because they were selected at the counsel... they were selected at the counsel becuase their authority was already recoginsed. The bible itself claims to have the authority to speak as a rule of faith. You don't have to accept that for yourself, but you do need to know that authority is its claim.

The Bible teaches clearly that having children is a blessing from God (despite the current population problems and economic problems throughout the world). The reality of our struggle is NOT a lack of space or resources... it's an unfair distribution of them. There is plenty to go round if people would only share! Further, population problems have only been a recent issue in world history. Prior to the modern industrial age, human populations have been in danger of extiinciton in various parts and the effort to survive has been difficult.

Finally, love is God's nature. If there is any love in the world it comes from Him. If we love, it's by His enabling, as John says, "he who loves is of God".... and "we love, because He loved us first". God, in the biblical frame work, is not some force that does things at random. He's a personal being who's very nature IS love... and we are unable to love without His empowering. Loving God is never a case of "rather than". You will never find a circumstance where loving God means NOT loving a fellow man. It's actually the other way around. We love God first SO THAT we may love our fellow man well. Of course, without the biblical frame work you can give love any definition you like and then, still within the biblical framework, answer to God for it on the day of judgement. Good luck with that.

God have loving mercy on us all.
Blessings
Cat.

Cat


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