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Re: Here we go...

Posted by newgeorge on 2009-05-22 17:35:04, Friday
In reply to Here we go... posted by Aionios on 2009-05-22 14:52:32, Friday

this is very learned stuff! some new things here for me: about that word 'purification' for example and I love your new word 'place-ified'!
I suppose the concept of hell must creep in alongside the concept of the after-life which seems to come into Judaism very gradually during the period after the Greek invasion. After all, if there is a life with God after death what happens to those people who did wicked things and were not among the 'saved'? All sorts of complicated theological problems get thrown up which we still wrestle with today one way and another.
The Greek influence upon later pre-Christian Jewish thought should not be underestimated as so many well-educated Jews were versed in Greek and probably learnt rhetoric and perhaps even philosophy as well. The Book of Daniel was Greek-influenced, and the man who wrote Ecclesiastes was certainly Greek-educated. . . .The idea of an afterlife was still very contentious in Jesus' time. I'm not sure what the Jewish view is now, but I suspect it will be as varied now as it was then.
That word 'place-ified' seems quite relevant to me at the moment because I am wrestling myself with the notion of the 'placelessness' of God. We as humans love to create 'holy places'. Churches, altars, sacred sites, holy days, icons, holy pictures, holy water, places of pilgrimage. Places where we seem to find God more . . . .
and yet I find myself casting back to the passage where Jesus says 'The son of man has nowhere to lay his head'. It's always puzzled me and I think it's probably more important than we usually realise; most of the gospel texts are, come to think of it . . .

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