Dakota you made a few reasonable and logical points that I agree with but for the most part I think we can agree to disagree. Things you said that I agree with...

"Of course I think that anyone who may be a danger to kids should stay away from them."

and

"You can be a friend to boys without having an actual "relationship." And that can be rewarding too. Look out for their welfare. As best you can, try to keep them from getting hurt. Say a kind word or words of encouragement when appropriate."

Those comments were well said.

But you also stated that there was nothing superficial, sexual, or self gratifying about your interaction with boys. I am pleased that is the case but what is your motivation then ? Because from those commenst one would assume you find younger personalities appealing rather than the physical aspect and if thats the case then my comments were mainly directed towards those with more deeper attractions to boys who find every aspect of them appealing and attempt to instigate sexual relationships based on those feelings.

So does that mean whilst your saying its ok to do what you doing because you have no sinister ulterior motives that you would agree with me that it is wrong if you saw anyone on this board who was persuing realtionships to satisfy their sexual feelings?

Because when I first posted here some suggested that showing and and receiving physical affection including hugging and kissing was fine, and that I should try and fulfill my goals and that its ok to have relationship first that could develop into something more. Based on those comments I said the things I said, and now Dakota your saying "I don't think the majority here base their love on admiration either" but thats not what it sounded like to me.

Regarding your example about heterosexual males and rape, well if a person is likely to rape anyone they will do it regardless of the fact they are , homosexual, hetreosexual, bisexual, boylover etc, because that act of violance is beyond sexual orientation and falls into pyschotic behaviour. So if were talking about a sane heterosexual male versus a sane Boylover then the heterosexual male dose not need to resort to rape because generally the female will consent to sexual acts with her own free will if she is also attracted to or likes the guy enough, and if she dosent im sure heterosexual men needing to fulfill his sexual needs will go in search of another companion willing to do so using his flirting, charming, verbal, body language skills to try and impress the female without raping her.

I belive the same applies to a sane sexually active Boylover who wants his sexual needs met, the main difference though is an adult female consents to an adult male with a her free will and makes a well informed decission based on experience, then where does this leave an unexperinced, uninformed naive vulnarable boy in the hands of a Boy Lover who slips up and decides to give in to their desires? If that boy was older or an adult do you think they would be as vulnarable and willing to intimate acts? particularly if they were also a heterosexual they would have no interest in you.

Dakota I understand you are not like this so this dosent apply to you but Im speaking generally on the risks involved with those in realtionships with less self control then yourself, and the things that were suggested.

I would also like to apoligise that Ive acidently got marcs comments confused with yours regarding being open and honest about the relationship your instigating.