I do think its possible to seperate love from lust but even love towards and innocent child who dosent know that your love is based on superficial admiration and self gratification is wrong in my opinion

If your love for boys is based on superficial admiration and self gratification, then I'm sorry for you, but mine is not. As you point out, I can't speak for everyone here, but from what I have read in many posts here, I don't think the majority here base their love on admiration either. We've had discussions here before about whether we love boys because we are sexually attracted to them or are we sexually attracted to them because we love them. It's kind of like the argument of which came first, the chicken or the egg. No one can really say for sure. But BASING our love on the sexual attraction? No, I would say that isn't the case for most.

Your claming you would explain to them if they could understand, well tell me this then...when those kids turn into adults will you tell them all about it?

I never said I would explain it to them. You must be confusing my post with someone elses. I would most assuredly NOT tell them about it. Not because I think it's wrong to care about them. But because my attractions are MY problem, not theirs. To tell them I am a boylover would be putting a burden on them they needn't have for no useful purpose. Not a very loving thing to do.

So if you start saying it ok to meet boys and be friends who are you actually saying that comment to ?

I'm saying that comment to anyone who has self control. But those who don't have self control or may be actively looking for boys to molest won't listen to my advice anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.

Because everyone is different some people are hurtful, dangerous and selfish and have no control. Are you saying that only BL's with self control should be allowed to meet boys or are you saying its ok for all boy lovers to meet boys regardless of the fact some people are dangerous and evil and will hurt, abuse, kill, rape, force, trick kids into sexual acts.

Of course I think that anyone who may be a danger to kids should stay away from them. But I don't have the power to ALLOW or NOT ALLOW anyone to do anything. Now using the world's logic, simply the fact that boylovers have the attraction to kids means they are a danger to them because they MIGHT slip up. But using the same logic would mean that no heterosexual man should ever be around women because they are attracted to them and therefor might rape them. You can't, or SHOULDN'T punish an entire group of people because a few do bad things.

Some people who might think they have self control might take your advice but then they might find they failed, but when they fail it comes at a terrible cost , who sufferes then, the child, now can you now see why this is wrong?

If you want to punish yourself for what others may do, that's your business. But don't expect me to do the same. You seem to be glued on to this notion that it's wrong to love boys if you are sexually attracted to them. With this attitude, you are not only robbing yourself, you are also robbing boys. Actions can sometimes be wrong, but pure love is never wrong. As I've mentioned before, I don't seek out boys to befriend, and it's been quite a while since I've had a close relationship with a boy. But if God brings a boy into my life that needs an older male to love them and be a friend, I'm certainly not going to chase them away. In the past when I did have a friendship with a boy, it was always with the full knowledge, monitoring, and support of the parent. Do some boylovers abuse boys? Yes. But your refraining, or my refraining from loving boys is not going to change that one bit.

I doubt you will follow my advice, but I would really encourage you to stop being afraid of loving a boy. If the idea of having a friendship with a boy makes you uncomfortable, then love them from afar. You can be a friend to boys without having an actual "relationship." And that can be rewarding too. Look out for their welfare. As best you can, try to keep them from getting hurt. Say a kind word or words of encouragement when appropriate. Just enjoy sharing the world with them. And pray for them, individually, when God puts it in your heart to do so. In other words, just love them.

Dakota