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Re: Zoophilia redux [was Re: Disappointed...]

Posted by Robert-I on 2008-04-23 15:31:16, Wednesday
In reply to Re: Zoophilia redux [was Re: Disappointed...] posted by Rainboy on 2008-04-23 02:27:52, Wednesday


Thanks again! Just a couple of comments for now.

One is that I am going to resubmit to you my post at http://cblf.org/messages/52963.htm as my best effort at understanding where sexual orientations and fetishes come from in biology. That's just so I don't need to re-write it in the context of answering your questions. Nothing, as you can see, is a particular "brokenness" in my view; rather, as St. Paul said "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify." "Vanilla" heterosexuality and homicidal sexual cannibalism share a common background, but one is workable in the this world and the other is not.

I've done a lot of reading in biology and I am very accustomed to species that are mainly clonal (reproducing by splitting), or where individuals have sex with themselves to reproduce, or where there are dozens of sexes rather than two, so the idea that God would have created a two-sex system that was the only approved mechanism, and that everything else was an abnormality, is a puzzler for me. It's true that various large organisms including the great apes (whereunder humans) only reproduce through a two-sex system, but the normal variation that biology spins out seems to hold true even with mammals, and there are plenty of individuals born intersexed and so on.

Just as there are many non-heterosexual or unconventionally heterosexual people(for example people who have had sex assignment surgery at birth), there are also legions of conventionally heterosexual people who cannot reproduce. Heterosexuality in humans is necessary (with one christmassy exception) but not sufficient for reproduction.

So I would be happiest if you would limit your appeal to biology and the miraculous aspects of heterogamous birth - the asexual splitting of two Bacillus bacteria is no less miraculous than a baby's birth -- miracles in biology come in myriad forms. But biology is mutable by nature and natural variation is built into absolutely everything it does. Since evolution is all done via gene mutation and profitable deviation from the norm, it was clearly God's plan that we would all reach the biological state we are in through successive degrees of abnormality and pattern-breaking. The miracle of abnormality is what all of biology, including highly ordered processes like birth and vision, is based on!



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