Spot on the money, Youth.

Right or wrong, if you're not mastering it, it's mastering you, and that's sinful.

So, to all tbose who seem to think hand-shandies acceptable (albeit within certain parameters, Cat), can you give it up? If you can't you're sinning because it's mastering you, regardless of right or wrong.

If it's not sinful presumably you're happy doing it knowing God's watching. I suppose you could pray whilst doing it. Personally I think a thank you letter to the LORD afterwards would be best...

"Dear LORD,

Thank you for Your gift of spanking the monkey. I appreciate the opportunity to be able to spend my wad without guilt and just wish my brothers could all do the same. Please ease their guilt so they may join us, your chicken choking children, without feeling the oppression of such verses as 'do not gratify the sinful desires of the flesh' which don't apply if I'm careful to interpret them as applying elsewhere. And I thank You for St Paul's marvellous take on things when he said: 'If a man cannot control his desires marriage is just one option, though a much easier one would be to slap the salami occasionally, provided that you're not thinking of specific individuals or looking at anyone whilst doing so since that would be lustful...'

Yours, with the staff of life in hand..."

.........

OK, maybe EMPIRE's feeling slightly cynical this evening...

;-)

God bless all