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Re: BL identiy

Posted by EMPIRE on 2007-10-21 21:39:20, Sunday
In reply to BL identiy posted by Cat on 2007-10-21 08:00:45, Sunday

Whoo-Hoo you really ask all the simple questions don't you, Cat?

You are a BL. Why? Is it something you are or something you do?

Let's assume it's not something you do - nearly everyone here would agree that if you're "doing" anything it's sinful.

If it's something you are then yes, you could be healed of it in the same way that the Lord may choose to heal anyone of anything...
Bad temper problem? Take it to the Lord and you'll always be mellow instead.
Feel jealous of others? A quick prayer and you'll instantly accept others' successes with gladness.
Lazy streak? A few words and you'll be happy to work 120 hour weeks suddenly.

Are we connecting? Inbuilt traits whether they be Godly, Fleshly or Demonic are NOT changed overnight. Pain - physical illness - yes, it is often healed instantly. Spiritual problems - need deliverance, which gives you freedom to resist temptation where before you had none (you'll also need the strength of the Holy Spirit on that one), but does not instantly change who you are or how you will be tempted. Critical point that last one.

Years ago when I was a teenager some well-meaning friends prayed for me to be delivered of my sexuality (I hadn't told them exactly what it was but anyway...) and restored to "normality". Because I respected them as Christian elders I assumed that since I was "cured" I'd not have to worry about temptation of that sort again. As soon as it did hit (less than 6 hours later) I didn't realise that thoughts in my mind were not my sin but temptations and it was up to me to fight them or pray about them or whatever, instead of which I beat myself up for thinking such things and assumed that I was not changed at all (which I wasn't, for whatever reason). Learning the difference between temptation and sin is a REAL hard one. Recognising that when a "bad thought" enters your head it's not your fault - it becomes your problem when you "run with it", allowing it to stay when it should be rebuked. That's called "resist the devil and he will flee from you" but don't expect it to be an immediate flight. The Greek translates as "continue to / continually resist the devil...". It's ongoing.

The Lord made man perfect. Man allowed corruption in and now "in sin did my mother conceive me" applies to all people. The whole perfect being that was to be CAT is riddled with corruption and sin and what parts of it are changed and what parts must be endured as they are is for you alone to discover. You'll often hear testimony of the type you describe where someone has "claimed their healing" but I bet you don't hear of it relating to personality flaws. I'm very suspicious of the "fake it 'til you make it" kind of healing where people believe that if they claim it enough they'll somehow bring it about. Spiritual "Think and Grow Rich". That's great for new age self help gurus not for Christians.

Now then. You say you have FEELINGS. Great. That's the way you're made. Do they belong to you? If you choose to keep them they do. Let's explain that. I have an anger problem. Someone wrongs me and I want to do them physical damage - a lot, if I let my mind run to it. These are my feelings, but all they are is temptation being allowed to generate feelings and develop into sin. My question to you is this. If you're NOT going to claim Christ's victory over your feelings (the ones you obviously feel are not Godly) what will you do with them? Allow them to linger? Try to ignore them? Fall into alignment with them and enjoy the feeling of doing so (even if they're wrong, they've been there for so long that they can feel warm, comforting, natural, even healthy). So what's your choice?

Putting a label like "pedo" onto yourself makes NO difference really, as long as your using it to simply recognise where your temptations lie. You're having feelings. You know they're wrong or you wouldn't feel the need to renounce them. The alternative is to not renounce them which is accepting them by default. Will it make a difference? Yes. It will give you the chance to avoid sinning. Will it make a difference in terms of changing you? Again Yes, it's part of "being transformed by the renewing of your mind". Will you suddenly cease to be a BL? Almost certainly not (until you die and the work of salvation in you is made complete in Him it ain't gonna happen - please let me know if it does).

When I say I'm a BL I'm admitting that I am susceptible to a certain type of temptation, and I am. Nothing will change that. I will always be tempted that way because the Devil is not a gentleman and will always hit where you're most vulnerable. Because of my history that will always relate to boys. I will always fight / resist / renounce wrong thoughts if I can, and when I don't I'll fall into sin again (and again and again).

So, my dear friend, fight on, resist, renounce, but don't hope that you'll suddenly change. I wish one could but it just doesn't work that way.

Here endeth the very long lesson. Sorry about that. Hope it's been healthy food for thought.

God bless

EMPIRE

PS All comments / comeback welcome.

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