Good I'm glad you can post now whatever the problem was. btw it would be useful if you seperated what I say and you say somehow, makes readit it easier.

"Well why don't you try to find the root cause of your problem? I've been reading though the articles and I have to tell you that it really look bad when you have poems, and songs about young boys. It doesn't look as though you're trying to find out why you feel this way, but rather you're giving people an outlet for their feelings. Granted that is somewhat healthy, harboring any emotion is dangerous, but it still doesn't resolve anything. Does that make sense?"

The root cause of our problem? This is something we have debated, argued and discussed for many years on many ped boards. It basiclly comes down to the same thing most other things do Nature vs Nurture. I cannot speak for everyone else here only myself. I think the root cause is genetics. I have at least one other person in my family who is a pedophile and I know others with the same experience. The problem is that since most of us hide there is no way of knowing who has pedophiles in their family and no way to really research this. Some peds I know have been molested but not all of us, I was not, so I don't think that can really be the root cause. In fact one person said he had ped feelings before he was molested, lots of kids are molested and all don't become pedophiles so that does not really work.

IF the root cause is genetics then there is not much of a solution other then eventually a technical one involving manipulating genes. Due to the ethics of it I would be 100% against any such procedure though if it was possible I would not stop somone who wanted it done to them. Most people here have spent years asking God to cure them of being a pedophile and that has not happened. Many have been to various kinds of therapy and that did not work. I have personal friends who have been chemically castrated and had aversion therapy done on them (ie torture where they inflict physical pain while looking at pictures of children).

I believe I have found the root cause and don't see a way to make it go away. Do you have a solution that does not dehumanize us?

"Thinking about sleeping with a 12 year old is almost as bad as sleeping with a 12 year old. It's dangerous, and there are parents on my board that are furious to think that someone could be thinking about their kid in such a way."

Why is my thought anywhere near almost as bad as an action? Seems far fetched that my thoughts about something harms the person I am thinking about. I know all about how thought can lead to actions but I have also learned how to control myself my whole life and know the difference between reality and fantasy. I know that parents are furios at me for my thoughts. Which is why I don't tell them, problem solved. Really though I can't stop it anymore than you can stop being straight or gay and their being pissed at me does not change that.

"What's the reason for the pedophilia? That is what makes these men messed up, the root cause. There must be some reason these men feel the way they do, what is it? Were they molested? Are they gay and were taught to believe they are evil, so they pushed that feeling deep, deep down until it turns into pedophilia?"

I answered this above and do not want to repeat myself. btw I am not posting on your board for safety reasons and I don't want to be repeating myself over and over. jd420 is not all of us, he only speaks for himself. I don't categorize you all by the statements of one person and the people in that thread should not do so either.