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second respons

Posted by zxc on 2007-01-28 13:43:14, Sunday
In reply to Re: Anti BL Drugs? posted by zxc on 2007-01-24 05:05:56, Wednesday

Responding to the "drugs" solution again:

This is what the Bible says about it in the Deuterocanonical or more "hidden" XXBiblicalXX book "wisdom of Sirach"


Medicine
38
1 The Lord chose some people
to be doctors, so honor them
for helping others get well.
2 God Most High gave them
the ability to heal,
and they are rewarded
by the king.
3 Their skills
make them important,
and they are admired
by powerful people.


4 Medicines are part
of the Lord's creation,
and if you are sensible,
you will use them.
5 38.5Ex 15.23One time even a piece of wood
made water fit to drink, j 37.22 you can depend ... give to you: One possible meaning for the difficult text.and this showed God's power.
6 He gives knowledge to humans
so that we will praise him
for his amazing creations.
* 7 Doctors relieve pain
and bring healing
by mixing medicines
from things that God created.
8 God will always be at work
bringing health
to everyone on earth.


9 Students, if you get sick,
quickly pray to the Lord,
and you will be healed.
10 Give up all your sins
and decide to do right.
11 Offer a sacrifice of fine flour
and as much olive oil
as you can afford, k 38.5 a piece of wood made water fit to drink: See Exodus 15.22-25.and the smell of the smoke
will be pleasing to God.
12 But God also created doctors,
and you need their help,
so don't reject them.
13 Someday your life
will be in their hands,
14 and they will ask the Lord
how to make you well
and relieve your pain.


15 Those who sin against God,
their Creator,
will also reject doctors. l 38.11 as much olive oil as you can afford: One possible meaning for the difficult text.


Mourning
16 38.16-23Si 22.11,12.When someone dies,
you should mourn and weep
as though you were in pain.
Prepare the body to be buried,
and attend the funeral.
17 Weep bitterly to show respect
for the dead.
If you don't grieve at all,
you will be criticized,
but don't mourn for longer
than a day or two.
18 If you don't stop gri


So healing by THE creator of everything is most likely to be found following His totally clear instruction about it in the Bible (learned by getting a good overview of what is in it exactly). From a position of taking pills for it first or any other position.

By medicines unbelievers can be healed also which is logically Gods will because He created them too. In this case its more like a intermediate between the heavens and people because the only intermediate is Jesus Christ who died for our sins on the cross.

This is why medicines have the reputation of not solving everything but more temporarily relieve. Or doing some other damage if the sickness would go away definitely.

This is why Jesus says that serving Him is

James 1
27 Religion that pleases God the Father must be pure and spotless. You must help needy orphans and widows and not let this world make you evil.

Which points not only to widows and orphans but to opression and needyness in general which is not the fault of the one who is experiencing it.

----So by honoring the Lord/praying and looking for Him and following His instruction you can XXXXget the complete healingXXXX And also for others who don't know this yet.

Without other intermediates than Jesus Christ Himself. And will be lasting unless you make a mistake which you can simply prevent as far as I can see.

(Looking for God: best in a controlled and patient manner as time passes things will get clear, so shouting etc. is only harmfull. If you look for Him like in the rest of "a hobby" you do it in the most comfortable way. Many ran wild to find Him because He is not "material" and the Lord made things perfectly clear to them as they quieted down again and resumed their normal life as far as possible at such point)

again:
marc 4:26

26 He {Jesus Christ} said, “The Kingdom of God is as if a man should cast seed on the earth,
27 and should sleep and rise night and day, and the seed should spring up and grow, he doesn’t know how.
28 For the earth bears fruit: first the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear.


I know I might be less understandable right now or have been in this sort of writings of mine in the past and not only here. I know lots of people who are on medicines and/or are very sick so in the understanding I have of Gods word it would mean that if other people would go to them and talk to them, just informing them how things really are they would be healed. Or their prayers answered if they are christians.

So I sort of leave out something. So completing: serving Jesus is letting as many people as possible know who the real mediator is so they wil get complete XX medicalXX healing too. Because they then will give the Creator the honour needed for Him to look at them and answer their prayers.

This could be me or any person, which is quite unbelievable. Or sort of abhorrent. Like: it would mean the end of the world hunger problem. "right now" which is not the case. So I personally remain silent cherish my hard results by how I do things and luckily by Gods help simply accept some things as in 1+1=2.

Ecclesiastes 2
24 There is nothing better for a man than that he should eat and drink, and make his soul enjoy good in his labor. This also I saw, that it is from the hand of God.

Matthew 9
36 But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion for them, because they were harassed TR reads “weary” instead of “harassed”and scattered, like sheep without a shepherd. 37 Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest indeed is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Pray therefore that the Lord of the harvest will send out laborers into his harvest.”




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